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“In all fairness, Superintendent Ritz was a librarian, okay? But she’s…uh… She’s a bright person." ---Senator David Long Speaks Out on Dysfunction

1/28/2015

 
The 2015 Legislative Session of Indiana is off to a roaring start.  The corporate reformer legislators are looking to continue with their agenda and apparently Superintendent Glenda Ritz is standing in their way. It is vitally important that we all write to the House Education Committee members and Senate Education Committee members as well as our own legislators and let them know where we stand. 

But for fuel to light your fire, let me show you what senator David Long, president pro tempore of the Indiana state senate, had to say about our superintendent of public instruction Glenda Ritz and the state board of education while on the Fort Wayne show "Prime Time 39".  From the senator: 

"Right now we have had a dysfunctional relationship between the superintendent of public schools and the board.  The board is made up of 11 people including the superintendent and she is also the chairperson of that board.  It is not working.

They've been fighting; she has sued the board, she has walked out on meetings…The board members have been having an issue with the superintendent. And it’s dysfunctional.  The board of education is the policy-driven group that drives school policy in this state.  The Department of Education, which the Superintendent of Education Ritz runs that, she’s the C.E.O. of that, implements that policy.  Indiana is the only state in the country that has an elected superintendent of education who is also the chairperson of the board.  There’s a reason why the rest of the country doesn’t do it.  That’s a dysfunctional and it is proving itself to be that way today.  We need to change that and our proposal, SB1, is to allow the board to choose their own chairperson.  We think that will solve the problems. 

Superintendent Ritz deserves to be the superintendent of public instruction, I do not support trying to take away her right to run again for that office in 2016.  I think that’s a bad idea. But most of the country does have the superintendent appointed and so we’ll talk about that in future years.  But the fact is that we can’t wait for her to run her course of her tenure… that might be until 2020 and have the board not working. That’s not good for Indiana’s kids and parents and schools."
Then Long took a question from a caller:

A woman caller, "Laura," asks:

“Senator Long, have you ever watched any of the board of education meetings?”

He responds “Yes, I have.” 

Caller: “Okay. I have, too, and when you talk about dysfunction, I think in particular, you have a couple of men on there who are very sexist and they don’t want to listen to what a woman has to say. Superintendent Ritz is a very, um, she’s won a lot of awards as a teacher. She knows a lot about teaching. She knows more about teaching than every board member put together. And I think that there’s been such a loss of respect.  Especially with a couple of men—one who hasn’t taught in a K-12 school in over 18 years and another one who is an attorney…”

Ironically, Senator Long interrupts this woman: “Let me try to answer your question there and I appreciate your comment.”  

He goes on: 


“In all fairness, Superintendent Ritz was a librarian, okay? But she’s…uh… She’s a bright person.  And, uh, I like Superintendent Ritz very much.  She has never run a school system.  

She’s probably the first superintendent we’ve ever had that has not had that experience as an executive either as a principal or as a superintendent.  And that is a bit of a problem for her—she’s on a learning curve there. 


The board members are all experts in different varying shapes and sizes, principals, superintendents in the past, PhDs in Education.  There’s some dysfunction.  It takes two to tango, obviously.  BUT, I will say that Superintendent Ritz sued the board, she has walked out on meetings, she has refused to put certain items on agendas, which is unprecedented in board of education meetings, so, it’s important to understand that she has been the catalyst for a lot of the dysfunction as well.  Not the only person. But looking at it from the global perspective, we need to, honestly, try to get the board to function as well as it can.  Regardless of who’s at fault, it’s not working and we can’t have another six years of this.  It’s bad for public education, bad for our kids and our parents and bad for Indiana. So that’s why we’re looking at a change without pointing fingers, just saying something needs to happen. We’ve spent two years trying to make it work and it’s not working.”

Let us be clear.  While Senator Long and other talking heads in the statehouse (and governor's mansion, for that matter) act like it is the structure of the department of education that is the problem, we know that Suellen Reed served well as a republican superintendent under democrat Governor O'Bannon and Gov. Kernan.  There were no complaints back then.  But when Governor Daniels and Superintendent Tony Bennett came on the scene with an ALEC-backed, corporate-education reform vengeance, Hoosiers objected loudly and embraced democrat Glenda Ritz for their superintendent of public instruction.

Let us also point out that there are 7 states who elect their state board of education members, who then elect the superintendent of instruction. There are 8 states besides Indiana who elect their superintendent of public instruction.  Add to this 9 other states in which there are some state board members elected, but not all, and you have a wide variety of democratically elected positions.  In fact, there are roughly only 14 states that have their board members appointed by the governor alone.  Indiana is not really an oddball at all, but one of many states that allow the electorate to have some sway over education positions other than the governor. 

No, Senator Long, the dysfunction is not in the structure of our state board and department of education. The dysfunction lies in a governor and his super majority who are trying to continue their corporate reform (privatization) education agenda at any cost. They will circumvent democracy and justify it by calling Ritz dysfunctional or a "catalyst."  

Dysfunction is ignoring the hundreds of thousands of voters who wanted Ritz to lead, who embraced her platform, and who showed more support for her than for the governor himself. Dysfunction is creating your own news agency to tell the story the way you want it to be painted.  And, unfortunately, dysfunction is a passive citizenry that will not vote these people out.

Please speak up NOW.
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Paula Barancyk
1/28/2015 12:47:38 pm

Supt. Ritz is in her position based on the will of the people. Apparently Senator Long is on a learning curve regarding the workings of a democracy.

Sarah Smith
1/28/2015 01:13:18 pm

I listened to the interview with Senator Long with absolute disbelief at the disdain with which he spoke of Superintendent Ritz. Having heard Supt. Ritz in person, she can list more legislation off the top of her head than Sen. Long has ever read! He speaks of her lack of administrative experience as being a problem, but I, and a huge number of other voters see this as an advantage. Ritz's experience is as a front line provider of services to schools and students. She understands ALL of the layers of the education system, as well as the laws that govern this system. Senator Long isn't even ON a learning curve - he prefers total ignorance of every aspect of education. He and his professed "professionals" need to allow Supt. Ritz to school them on education rather than deciding they will try to make her look incompetent. Anyone who has had the privilege of speaking to her or hearing her speak about education can tell you that they will never succeed.

Jeremy Creech
1/29/2015 12:10:17 pm

Its sad that the Indiana government don't know anything thing about public education. Feed the rich. Make them richer. Screw the poor, make them poorer. They are trying to segregate the school's. In my opinion that is illegal. Our governor is just riding the coat tails of Daniels. Who started all this mess. All it is is to make money. What happen to the old superintendent Bennett that everyone thought was great. Oh I remember illegal activity had to quit his job in Florida.

Mike Hunt
1/29/2015 12:10:21 pm

Ritz is a classic Union bully. She is unqualified, shows no leadership skills and acts like a dictator suppressing votes, not allowing discussion and acting like a spoiled child stomping out of meetings when she does not get her way. In 2008 Indiana Democrats wanted the position to be appointed, it's hilarious when the shoe is on the other foot things change. Ritz is just another member of the status quo I$TA members who put themselves in front of our children's education.

Randy HIppensteel
1/29/2015 02:30:28 pm

Are you kidding me? Union bully? First of all if it wasn't for the unions there wouldn't be anyone out there fighting for workers to have better wages, healthcare, and retirement. I am proud to be a union pipefitter and I work hard to earn what I have. Secondly the reason Superintendent Ritz leaves these meetings and storms out is because the board of education doesn't give a damn about her ideas. She has won teach of the year TWICE!!! None of the other members of the board have the teaching experience or achievements that Superintendent Ritz has. So honestly who in our board of education have a clue about students these days. Speaking as someone who graduated not to long ago if we keep getting more and more tests added each year we are never going to learn anything and the board will just look at us as failures. Superintendent Ritz has the experience and knowledge to help improve our schools if only the other members of the board will get there heads out of their asses and listen for a change.

Cathy Hackney
1/29/2015 11:19:33 pm

Mr. Hunt...you probably have NO IDEA what goes on in a classroom. I honestly think the 'committee' has no idea as well. This year, the ISTEP consists of 70 minute tests, 60 minute tests, 40 minute tests. How long do you think elementary school children can be comfortable sitting still, and taking these tests? The importance of these tests is stressed to the students, and some of them are so worried, they are in tears. Sixty minutes? Really? And, the practice tests are supposed to be a 'hint' as to what the actual test will be. They are so confusing, adults are struggling to make sense of them. I'm appalled at what our children are facing this spring. SHAME on the folks who designed this test! Shame on the 'committee' for allowing it into the classrooms. When the scores are low, don't blame the educators. It's the fault of the 'committee.'

Cathy Hackney
1/30/2015 12:00:01 am

In addition...this is WHY a superintendent who has knowledge of actual school experiences...not a 'committee' of people who THINK they know. Just frustrating.

Cheryl Austin
1/30/2015 03:04:02 pm

Well said, Cathy! THIS week at our high school (I am a secondary science educator), our Freshman got their ReadiStep results (NEW mandatory test for 9th graders!) while our Juniors took the NEW Accuplacer test for students who have not yet passed ECAs and have NOT met a min PSAT score. Crazy!!

Sherri Gleeson
1/30/2015 12:38:54 am

How dare you Mr. Hunt! I'm not sure you have ever had the privilege or honor of listening to superintendent Ritz ever. My guess you haven't taken the time to listen to her. You call her a spoiled child, I'm sorry but what do you call it when our governor doesn't get the person he wants for superintendent elected and makes an entire new board to contract everything she was ELECTED to do! She received more votes than her did and he is throwing a tantrum along with all the other legislators that didn't get their way!

Tony Bennett tried to ruin our public school systems and the policies address still continuing. You know nothing about educating our children in Indiana. Before you go off and start talking about the unions maybe you should do some research! ISTA and AFT INDIANA will do their research and the whole goal is to do what is right for students!

Students, teachers and support staff are working harder than ever! putting in long hours before and after school to help prepare pour students for their future! do not criticize what you don't know anything about! Teachers are teaching, preparing their schedules and supplies for class, making phone calls after hours to parents, tutoring after hours, committee meetings, faculty meetings, professional development and let's not forget buying supplies for kids who don't have them, clothing, personal hygiene supplies and being there for that one child that just needs to know they are loved and safe!DO NOT DEMEAN my profession any longer! We all went to school to learn to teach your children! You don't get a diploma and never go back to school. .... You are continually learning, researching and sharing ideas to help kids!

I challenge you to goo into any public school system and see what these students and teachers are doing. Talk to teachers, students, staff and administrators. it will open your eyes if you are willing to look at it optimistically!

Cheryl Miller
1/30/2015 04:47:24 am

Randi Livengood
1/31/2015 04:17:00 am

Bravo! Very well said Sherri Gleeson!

Melissa
2/1/2015 03:51:23 am

So you have a problem with unions, hope you enjoy your Sunday off and your benefits from your employer, all which are a result of unions hard work over the years!

Vicki
2/1/2015 06:50:53 am

Melissa I am off today and I have benefits but yet have never been part of a union in my 50 years on this earth...so shhhhhhhhh

Melissa
2/1/2015 07:09:54 am

Vicki,
Your Welcome! Because of unions and their hard work over many years, you have those benefits. Without unions, we would all just be minions doing work for lower wages and without retirement and benefits.

Mary Lawler
1/29/2015 11:53:00 pm

Senator Long needs to be out of office

Adam Bess
1/30/2015 10:12:24 am

Having done some considerable research on the issues presented through the political implications of the events this week, I would have to say that it's hard to form an opinion if one is attempting to be unbiased.

Inevitably, this comes down to political associations. It seems as though many Democrats are more willing to side with their one Democratic leader in Indiana's government, Ritz, while many Republicans find it easier to align themselves with the GOP-controlled General Assembly, Governor Pence, and the State Board.

I will say that I am a Republican. When issues first started arising between the State Board and Sup. Ritz, I sided with the Board. I believed that Ritz was acting unprofessionally by refusing to "play nice" with the Board and was riding on power moves that first gained her the position of State Superintendent. That being said, today I realized that I am sympathizing with both Ritz and the State Board almost equally. Ritz acknowledgment that the idea of having an appointed State Superintendent needs to be studied is a very humble gesture, in my opinion. I value that in a leader. On the other side, I can see how the political implications of the job have gotten in the way of cohesive cooperation between the State Superintendent position and the State Board.

As an aspiring educator currently studying at Indiana State University in secondary-level music education, I find the polarization of this issue on both sides of the political spectrum almost irresponsible. Earlier in this forum, someone accused the State Board of being sexist because Ritz is a woman. I find that child-like and "grasping at straws" to make an argument. There are professionals, educators I know should behave more rationally, that are immediately discounting the State Board and its intentions for other causes similar to this. The fact that the State Board members are "uneducated" in the way of educational politics is definitely not a productive way of resolving this issue. People should not be commenting on this page in such a way that it almost implies that he or she could do a better job than those tasked with handling our Hoosier education.

Almost every article I see regarding this conflict inevitably has comments like those mentioned just now and there seems to be no productive, civilized, and bipartisan dialogue going on between professionals and those invested in the future of Indiana's education.

Speaking as one such person who hopes the educational debate climate can improve through this issue, I only ask that people have more respect for the opposition.

Politicians will be politicians. But we're educators, and it's time we all started acting like the professionals we are.

Cathy Fuentes-Rohwer
1/31/2015 07:39:48 am

Adam,

I appreciate your thoughtful comments. I do believe that in Indiana, the fight over public education and its privatization (profiteering) has come down on party lines, BUT, I do not agree that this is overall the case in the big-picture fight. At the federal level, the Obama administration has done their share of corporate education reform through mandated testing, tying it to teacher evaluations, and the expansion of charters ($$$). Therefore, we can no longer call this partisan politics. This is about power and this is about democracy.

Glenda Ritz was elected to do a job and for the voters she represented a change in agenda. The contentiousness occurred when Governor Pence created a secondary department of education (the CECI) with millions of our tax money and those positions (most of whom made six digits, BTW) interfered with the process and productivity so much at our dept. of ed that one might think that was their sole purpose. In addition, the governor appointed board members were so obstructive (not all, but many) and rude to her that they themselves looked like high school bullies.

I don't think that you can underestimate the sexism. I cannot imagine Dan Elsner speaking that way to any man at all. I have heard him say "There you go.." as if to a baby or small child, when she got something he deemed correct. As a woman, if she were to be submissive and cooperative with him, she would be described as weak. If she were to be firm and stand her ground (as she has) she would be (and is) viewed as obstructive, dysfunctional, and hysterical. Please consider that this framing would not occur for a man. But sexism aside, there is a battle over direction in education. Public schools are reflective of our communities and democracy... they are accountable to the people because they have elected board members who guide policy. The same should be true of the overall policy makers at the state level. Yet, just as with our democracy, we have some people who would circumvent that democratic process, fueled by big money, and the result may very well be the end of our public school and the cradle of our democracy.

Vickie Riggins link
1/31/2015 12:31:45 am

My sadness and concern stem from watching education be batted around like the proverbial political football. Glenda Ritz WAS elected by the Indiana electorate for a reason. The previous office holder was a hoax who pandered to Mitch Daniels and his donors!
Now we find ourselves in a continuation of this political charade disguised as dealing with a petulant child (Glenda Ritz) who misbehaves her handlers. These hedgefund whores who feed the coffers of Big Teeting only serve to muddy the waters of what is really going on. These malcontents despise unions because they serve as a buffer between those who believe teachers have little economic value and can't possiibly know as much as those in the "millionaires boys' club" about anything.
No amount of testing will cure the ills of profound poverty and dysfunction homes where children count for littlle! Shame on those who berate and belittle those who are in these trenches.

susan powlen link
2/2/2015 06:23:53 pm

For the record, Ms. Ritz was first a special education teacher for folks with severe disabilities and a reading specialist before going back for a third professionalization of her teaching license to be a librarian. She is smart, emminently qualified and the people's choice for the department of education leader in Indiana. Leave politics out of our schools! Give the schools back to all of our children in the state of Indiana!


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